When someone leave you for dead,it implys that you survived a near death experience. King Vegeta is Vegeta's father and a minor antagonist who appears in flashbacks in the TV series Dragon Ball Z. @liquidnazo: this is why we can't have nice things. Him versus King Vegeta would've been a better fight. I dislike your tone2. Kakarot: 2. If you count super saiyan bardock, he will absolutely destroy king Vegeta without breaking a sweat. Bardock was said to be "nearing King Vegeta's own power level" pre planet meat. If Bardock was lower than these soldiers the same would have happened, they would have been fast or strong enough to survive and beat him to death. Their combat experience after Freiza saga is roughly the same, for intents and purposes. @darkbiscuit: Your statements are just that, statements. Where does this logic come from? 5 years old means nothing. - his doctors analyzing his power level post Planet Kanassa. King Vegeta's power level was 10,000-ish (I'm guessing it's not THAT high ((as in 15,000)) yet). You must be his offspring." And you're "debunking" was wrong. King Vegeta closely resembles his eldest son, Vegeta, though he is bearded, has brown hair, and is taller than his son.Being a part of Frieza's army, King Vegeta wears the typical Battle Armor with minor customizations, such as the red Vegeta Royal Family Crest on the left side of his armor. He busted three planets together just by waving his hands. It doesn't matter how many zenkais or battles Bardock fought, it doesn't automatically make him equal to king Vegeta, it just means he's catching up quickly. I also just thought of something. Bardock was pumping all of his power into the blast, tearing up the muscles in his arm. If you think Ep. Low class means nothing to Goku nor Bardock. That's easily addressed. 3). NUMEROUS.Vegeta POSSIBLY mastered whatever fighting form Frieza employed upon him. If you only consider canon events king Vegeta would defenetly win since he is a high class saiyan and Bardok is a low class, regardless that king vegeta's son(Vegeta) is stronger than him as child. Even in DB, Goku barely ever met his match. Let’s get real though he could have been healed from the damage from Dodoria’s and his elites. Also, he had enough power to kill a standard low-class Saiyan soldier, but again that isn't a great feat of strength either. Of course he is! Whenever he got mad his power would go to incredible new heights. Not doubting you but was that addressed in the manga? @liquidnazo: There is no reason for all the cursing and throwing around the term "fag" like that. You're going by comic book logic: Bardock had more screen time, thusly more feats. If this shit cannot be done fairly......................... As a matter of fact I'm going to create my own version of this thread and if I find the slightest bit of stupidity. King Vegeta is supposed to be the Saiyan's best fighter at the time. Again, unless you can actually prove that those elites Bardock took out would be too much for King Vegeta, there's not much of an actual argument to make besides who has the higher power level. It's still a valid feat, and even those so-called "cheap shots" are more than King Vegeta ever demonstrated. 0. Either get in the debate and actually read my posts, or leave please. Practical training can provide some of this but King Vegeta wouldn't have this privilege as he is the king. There's nothing to prove that he will have big enough power advantage on highly skilled goku (over 8000 vs below 10000). You're getting it wrong there. It does in DB. I really wonder if King Vegeta would have been able to 'cheap shotted' two or done it as well as Bardock did. Note that Vegeta had the Majin boost, however I consider that as leveling the grounds due to Goku's Other World enhancements (no fatigue when training among other benefits). If Bardock was healed from his injuries from Dodoria’s Mouth Blast, the assault against Frieza’s soldiers and from some sort of freak explanation of him surviving the Death Ball his power would be beyond imagination! Experience. I think that Bardock’s power was probably up in the 15,000s or more! It goes by the saying "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger". @vance_astro@saren@god_spawn pls get rid of this. @liquidnazo: . Winner: Bardock. IIRC, Nappa had a power of like 7,000 whereas Bardock was rumored to be getting his power level near the area of King Vegeata's, who was like 10,000. However, if Bardock were given a little more time to mature, he would probably end up growing in power faster than Vegeta could catch up, much like what happened with their sons. Please support the official release.\r\rask.fm: \r\rSubscribe to (for inspiration :D)\r\rDCInfamous120\r\r\rSaiyan Legend … I would say Vegeta was absolutely a battle-hardened warrior by the time he encountered Goku. Stated potential advantage: King Vegeta (This does not include what they can become, in which case Bardock would win. Since he was a child when he went past his father I would say that King Vegeta’s power level was around the late 12,000/13,000-to possibly 14,000. You coming in here yelling and condescendingly is quite hypocritical of you if you're calling me "smug". If you're arguing that him having more zenkais changes anything in this current battle, then you must not grasp the concept of them. Vegeta always trained harder than Goku and I'm not talking about experience either. Both King Vegeta and Bardock had a power level of ten thousand in their base forms, but the fusion multiplied their power to over a million, proving that if they were much stronger they could become much more powerful when fused as one. However, if Bardock were given a little more time to mature, he would probably end up growing in power faster than Vegeta could catch up, much like what happened with their sons. "but he's a king and should be the most powerful" - pathetic. Everything that I've said has come from me alone. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Universe Mission!! 188.8.131.52 23:23, January 18, 2013 (UTC). Bardock had a power level of 10,000 if I recall correctly, so Vegeta (even in the Saiyan saga) would win rather easily. The power boost is gained once recovered. King Vegeta fought a 10 year war vs. the Tuffles, who vastly out teched, and outnumbered him; a far more impressive feat than taking out planets of weaklings (bar the VERY most recent of planets - and even only a few of those were worth note). Vegeta (Saiyan Saga) VS 40 Namekians (30 with Power Levels of 3,000; and 10 with 2,000) - Jul 4, 18 SSjin Vegeta(Cell Games) vs. Piccolo(Cell Games) - [EQUAL POWER LEVELS] - … A list of power levels from Weekly Jump #31, 1989. It LITERALLY said in the Bardock special that he would "surpass King Vegeta at this rate." None You are just spectulating completely. It is unknown how long it took Frieza to get to Planet Vegeta. King Vegeta wins 7/10, however every single battle is barely won by either or. However, Vegeta refers to him as just common soldier. Most definitely wasn't martial arts. He went for Freiza solo. 5). However, Goku unlocked SSJ3 due to his intense training in a multitude of martial arts, including what he was taught in the Other World (which was the most intense, and best training he'd ever done). A. a Vageta fagget B. being very spiteful and C. Do not deserve to post another comment on any debate forum..EVER........................not bullshit splurred from your mouth...................(Batman fags, Vageta fags, Cell fags, Flash fags, and SUPERMAN fags)............................You know who does crap like that..? Shouldn't be haha.This is what I call a full spectrum...CURBSTOMP. One can presume that he likely assimilated this or that, but not much. Again, not a great feat of strength. Please refrain from doing so again the future. Bardock after Training in cave: 45,000 (some time had passed) Bardock's mad believing Chilled is Frieza: 100,000 (punches him) Bardock reeling on the Ground after Chilled crushed him: 14,500. He's a saiyan, but Bardock is stronger because in the movie Bardock Father of goku it said Bardock was stronger than King Vegeta. Bardock blew through 100 of Frieza's men, like they were nothing. He saying no proof =/= no argument. This is a list of known and official Power Levels (戦闘力, Sentōryoku, lit.Combat Power) in the Dragon Ball universe.All of the levels on this list are taken from the manga, anime, movies, movie pamphlets, Daizenshuu guides, video games and stated mathematical calculations. Tag others when you get an actual argument that is not repeating what others have disproved already and just negating everything by hyporcitically turning a blind eye to certain comments on here.1. Not. The same logic can be reasonably said for vegeta and goku and just how much did that notion help with what was it "NO PLEASE KRILLIN DO NOT KILL HIM!!! Why doesn't Any abitious saiyan just overtake the throne. In the "Bardock Special" it clearly states that King Vegeta and Bardock were roughly around 10,000. As the ruler of the Saiyans, there's no question that King Vegeta would wipe the floor with Bardock at the time of his death. 5 year olds............................. That's when I can label you a child, a childish freaken annoyance at that. DB doesn't base everything (not even most things) off of feats.He is not really saying no feats =/= no argument. King Vegeta was almost overwhelmed by like 10 basic henchmen where as Bardock took down Dadoria's team and hundreds of henchmen while injured. He was also the commanding hero of theSaiyan Army, and led his people to victory in theSaiyan-Tuffle war, in which the planet was renamed in his honor. If not, a newer thread with an updated scenario and specification on who is at what power level would be nice. When Future Dende cries for help, Porunga takes this for a wish and makes Future Bardock appear. He appears in Dragon Ball Z: Shin Budokai - Another Road. Now on to your skill advantage what in your right mind says Vegeta has the edge? People suck the fun out of this. Without the mask, his eyes are shown to be black with red irises which may be a result of him controlling the power of darkness given from the mask. "King Vegeta has better training. With Bardock constantly going on missions, his zenkais would propel him into a very high power level compared to King Vegeta who would continue to louse around unless war broke or something. The techniques King Vegeta and Bardock … Tokeupdude (talk) 08:40, January 19, 2013 (UTC). Bardock: 10,000 Bardock's Teammate: 5,000 Gine: 500 Kakarot: 12 (Frieza Arc; in vision): 1,000,000 Frieza (First Form): 530,000 Power level's are pretty much pointless in the DBZ Universe in any content made past the Namek Saga. The source of this misunderstanding was propagated by FUNimation’s (rather abysmal) dub of the Bardock TV Special. According to the episode of bardock special, with the Zenkai he got after healing from freiza's blast, he was probably close to or on par with king vegeta. Bardock was able to defeat Dodoria's Elite AND survive a mouth energy wave, then, while wounded, fought off hundreds of Freeza's soldiers (WAY more than King Vegeta did) so if you accept the filler clip of King Vegeta in Freeza's ship Bardock is stronger. The docters commenting on his progress said "If he keeps this up he'ss surpass King Vegeta." Later he was trained by Kami, the god of Earth, and finally by King Kai, the god of the galaxy, specifically in preparation for Vegeta's coming. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. Bardock Special Bardock = Closing in on 10k King Vegeta = 10K reported. YOUR LOGIC IS WHAT IS $#@cking pathetic. With Bardock constantly going on missions, his zenkais would propel him into a very high power level compared to King Vegeta who would continue to louse around unless war broke or something. Power Levels for Dragon Ball Z Bardock - The Father of Goku, Brolys Past and Episode of Bardock.\r\rI do not own anything. Note that Vegeta had the Majin boost, however I consider that as leveling the grounds due to Goku's Other World enhancements (no fatigue when training among other benefits). Official/Royal training advantage: King Vegeta - Here, I added a section back on what you based King Vegeta's advantage was from. re: Bardock vs King Vegeta There's two ways to look at this. What does that mean? You're using comic logic in DB. Surprise means little if you want to go there against the Elites. We never really get a grasp of King Vegeta's power level, as he is never shown in a real fight, though we do know that he is signifiacantly weaker than Frieza who was at 530,000. Don't really need to anyway. Reputation advantage: King Vegeta (that helps)Buu had the reputation. King Vegeta, Bardock and a group of Saiyans were in front of Frieza's spaceship fighting off boards of Frieza's foot soldiers before Bardock broke free and ... Now for power levels! Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Dark Demon Realm Mission! The reasons power levels were rendered moot was because somebody could go period-mode and get a huge boost. I'm not sure what the official numbers are, but I believe King Vegeta was slightly higher. A devoted and loyal warrior despite his low-class, after learning of Frieza's plans to destroy the Saiyans, he seeks to attempt to stop him at any cost and save his newly born infant son and the rest of his race. He had the skill but lacked the speed and strength to match Vegeta. His "many zenkais"? Bardock wasn't at all recovered: he was still bleeding! King Vegeta's power was surpassed by Vegeta when he was a kid, and I highly doubt that Kid Vegeta didn't increase his strength that much from as a kid to a guy in his early 30s. King Vegeta had a more impressive feat if you proportionate Bardock's power increase due to his rage (which would have no play here) and the number of guys he took out. King Bardgeta (The D would be silent) Assuming this is Potara, I came up with a logical Fusion Increase which is Person A + Person B x Strongest Form. Too scared to make a new thread myself because of bad wording by another poster though. He shot one blast and it got eaten by Friezas own. I don't really view that as a "fact" at all. His life got cut short by Frieza, as did Bardock's. His scouter detects a battle between 5 people on the surface. And based on the way he destroyed planet Arlia, I would say he had probably done that kind of thing before. Nobody is claiming that he wins because he is the king. Defeating 100s of elites in Frieza’s army while battle-damaged is a feat that few could accomplish in his time. Take your favorite fandoms with you and never miss a beat. Vegeta's lack of versatility in what he practices is the cause, however his dedication and the intensity with which he practices made up for it. Going by power levels, Nappa would win. 184.108.40.206 23:23, January 18, 2013 (UTC). None You are just spectulating completely. I figure op didn't realize that Bardock could so SSJ1, as if he did he'd be out of his mind to even ask that question, aaaand it'd be hardcore spite. Their experience is roughly equal, or at least presumably so. While injured. Including movies and filler, we see that as a child he was put up against groups of Saibamen in mortal combat, each of whom is as powerful as Raditz, and he beat them easily. I'm not repeating anybody.2. Bardock was said to be "nearing King Vegeta's own power level" pre planet meat. Bardock & King Vegeta (Potara Fusion) Runs Gauntlet, Frieza and his army VS King Vegeta's army (all in Great Ape form), Bardock's PL and the King's PL Canon wise. Beat a good amount of Frieza's army (let's say a good 80) while on a, Defeated 4 Friezan elites relatively easily, Power level reference: "If he keeps this up, he is going to become stronger than King Vegeta!" One sits on a thrown and is respected and one goes and experiences battle day after day. Or are we assuming King Vegeta somehow survived and went back in time like Bardock? He triple busted the planets. Oh yes, that he hasn't surpassed him yet.And just because this is not comic does not mean the same logic cannot apply. He didn't HAVE to solo all of the guards: so he didn't. This stuff is supposed to be professional enjoyable, and fun. I mean, think about it. More than anything Vegeta has ever done. 4). NOT MARTIAL ARTS.Since then, Vegeta has not learned any new martial arts. Fact is, he was able to do more injured than King Vegeta did at peak.Zenkais don't work like that. Not to make light of KV's own growth rate (a trait of all Saiyans), but Bardock seems to have an affinity for it. Vegeta trained in 150 times gravity while in SSJ. “If he keeps this up he’s going to be even stronger than King Vegeta!” a quote from one of the doctors treating Bardock after the attack on Kanassa. So by power level, Bardock actually loses as you stated. Fact is, he was able to do more injured than King Vegeta did at peak. It was stated by some doctor that Bardock is catching up to King Vegeta quickly. Only one of the power levels is familiar, his son Prince Vegeta is fighting a battle 4 to 1. It was FAN-MADE. "King Vegeta has better training. Power level advantage: King Vegeta - Agreed. Bardock no competition. Also explain to me why Bardock supposed attacked from Zarbon who's twice his power level and was 'left' for dead to not be enough to be considered near death experience. King Vegeta had a more impressive feat if you proportionate Bardock's power increase due to his rage (which would have no play here) and the number of guys he took out. Is this hypothetical situation before Bardock went back in time? That leaves it to experience and skill. The statement about Bardock only catching up to King Vegeta is a pretty good indicator that he was still weaker at the time. The whole 80 soldiers thing? So if bardock fought king vegeta when he is a ssj, bardock wins no doubt. You're getting flagged I promise my tolerance level has had it up to here. Did any of them disappoint? However zenkai can happen to all saiyans, so King Vegeta has that potential as well, and we're talking about what they have the potential to do as of right now: not as of the future.) I'm saying this because in the tournament at the Other World, Goku was already stronger and essentially better than everyone. ... Low level and elite actually only refer to your power … Goku does have elite training; he was first trained by Master Roshi, one of the greatest human martial artists in the world. POSSIBLY. While both in SSJ2 forms, Vegeta and Goku were equals (Vegeta had a minor edge). Experience. I believe it works kind of like this. Fighting skill advantage: Bardock (Training does not mean anything if you dont have experience, Bardock has enough to where he is as skilled as they come)Bardock is not as skilled, however his experience makes up for it. He had to hold Vegeta back. Bardock was at the least in K Vegeta's class if not more powerful. Join Community. So someone without training is taking the slow route and require much more time to reach the same position. MASTERED. *Bardock (Zenkai after elixir heal): 35,000. The relationship between Bardock and King Vegeta reminds me of Goku and Vegeta. I believe that King Vegeta's power level is, in fact, higher than Bardock's was at the time. And you're "debunking" was wrong. Vegeta wins on real grounds, however op said strongest versions which would be ssj1 Bardock...sooooooo. https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Forum:Who_was_stronger;_Bardock_or_King_Vegeta%3F?oldid=1334989. Most of the good ones actually spend a lot more time training than getting into fights, in or out of the ring. No. Do you remember Cui vs Vegeta? Also, I can't see any blasts from him being sent to the planet. I think Bardock is stronger because he was able to acheive SSJ and King Vegeta couldnt. Power levels are really inaccurate, so you can't just compare King Vegeta and Bardock's power level. (He also never does it alone). @darkbiscuit: The majority here say Bardock so if you believe otherwise YOU are the odd man out. He was killed by Frieza. King Vegeta is king 'cause of heritage but anyone could overtake his throne if they are strong enough. Bardock took out Dedoria's 4 elite soldiers. 2). Though I do not think that Bardock could have been healed in time before Frieza came to the planet and if he did I think that his base power would be beyond that of King Vegeta. Dragon Ball; Dragon Ball Super; Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Dark Demon Realm Mission! bardock the father of goku was a special, not a movie and was considered canon by akira toriyama, so much so that he put bardock in the updated manga. And the ones Bardock fought are Freiza's right hand man's elites, which doesn't mean a whole lot. @stupid_people: Yeah I know....would be good to troll with though. As to answer your point about him needing to be as strong as them: you're right and wrong. Bardock: 10,500. Main article: Dragon Ball Z: Shin Budokai - Another Road Future Bardock appears on New Namek when Future Babidi tries to attack Future Dende for stealing his wishes to Porunga. Training does not provide much combat experience that allows the person to build instincts, reflexes, and faster reaction time. Thats it. Like the movie, it is unknown how long the Saiyan space pods trips were to Kanassa, Meat, and to Frieza’s ship. One sits on a throne and one battles and has just as much skill. 3). I actually always hated how Goku is always better than Vegeta. Either way, here are plausible answers. Power level advantage: Bardock (better feats, more zenkais, more battles)The zenkais got Bardock to his current power level, which is still below King Vegeta's. Either he did, or didn't: he did. Bardock would have a huge power boost, and King Vegeta would be in shock over the outcome of their battle. Did you seriously bring the tuffles into this? I place more merit on Bardock, though, because he has more battle experience of late, whereas King Vegeta sat on his butt the last few years of his life after winning the War vs the Tuffles. And in their first encounter, it still wasn't enough; Vegeta would have killed him without the help of Gohan, Krillin, and Yajirobe. Not just because he's a much cooler character, but because it's true. King Vegeta's power level was 10,000-ish (I'm guessing it's not THAT high ((as in 15,000)) yet). @freefa11 just made me realize: I haven't stated EXACTLY what I think. Most definitely. Goku mastered numerous forms of martial arts. You putting words into our mouth's is pathetic. He saying no proof =/= no argument. By the time of his return, he has gained armor akin to the classic Saiyan armor. Bardock beat "tons of super powered alien bad guys"....freiza's regular army average 2000 pl... unimpressive especially vs an enraged warrior of Bardock's caliber. A devoted and loyal warrior despite his low-class, after learning of Frieza's plans to destroy the Saiyans, he seeks to attempt to stop him at any cost and save his newly born infant son and the rest of his race. He jobs Bardock takes the mask and goes ssj3 to fight king vegeta Paragus stabs King Vegeta w/ same knife used to stab Broly King Vegeta doesnt care though, vaporizes Paragus ,and continues to fight Bardock (he's enjoying the fight) Bardock-5400 -Oozaru Bardock-54,000 -Post Battle-5800 -Zenkai-9700 -Final Zenkai-24,000 -Final Attack-32,000 Frieza 1st Form Suppressed-250,000 -Supernova-300,000 King Vegeta-12,000 Tora-4200 -Oozaru Tora-42,000 -Post Battle Zenkai-4350 Brogos-2900 -Oozaru Brogos-29,000 -Post Battle Zenkai-3000 Shuegash-2300 -Oozaru Shuegash-23,000 -Post Battle Zenkai-2400 Fasha-2200 -Oozaru Fasha-22,000 … Way to "debunk" those feats that sure showed me: an INJURED Bardock only killed like 80, nothing compared to the mighty 10 Vegeta almost lost to. It just looks like he powers up, then it scene changes, and they blow up. It was said that he was “born” SS, I think this means that he was born with the ability to go SS not that he came out as a SS. Bardock does have more battles though, yes. @freefa11beat me to it. Pikkon rivaled him fairly well, but even the Grand Kai had doubts in himself that he can properly train either of them at their strength and needed to delay their lesson by a hundred years. Does years of experience not equal skill now a days? 4. But if it's indeed so that the Saiyan-royals are a whole different class of elites, then we have a "super-elite" with a battle power which in accordance with the rules, ranks in the lower-class powers. They both could've done more; Bardock simply had more screen time and more babies to hit (keep in mind that the average Friezan soldier sits at 1300-1500 power levelaccording to the video games). He was able to survive against Dodoria who was atleast twice as strong as him. Also in the movie Bardock: The Father of Goku, Bardock was said to be stronger than King Vegeta. Oh for the rest of the Manga context Paragus gets his s*** kicked in esrly then Bardock intervenes. Moderated by: SgtMartin, EpicRaptorMan. Man, he is not training very hard. His power level is stated to be around 10,000. The doctors claimed that if Bardock kept coming back the way he was, that he might have even passed King Vegeta's power-level. I'll reference my previous power level point: Power levels don't determine the victor, but they do determine the "leagues". ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Bardock took out 4 elites? People need to call people out on there shit, and stop letting this crap fly. You had 4 points here and all of them either contained unknown ends (the disproved thing: you didn't state what was "disproved"), was previously explained by me (the leagues thing/the comic book logic), was completely wrong (the repeating thing/the turning a blind eye), or goes against what was said by the actual source (the surpassing). First off you have it all right there. Frieza had the reputation. Both are pretty good reputations with one being much more solid. 1 Summary 2 Powers and Stats 3 Others 4 Discussions Bardock is a low-class Saiyan warrior, the mate of Gine, and the father of Raditz and Kakarot. Did. I'm sure that convinces people. Prince Vegeta (kid) VS Bardock. That is ALL. vegeta was actually at the power level of around 18,000 when he was on earth facing goku, he was up and around 24-34,000 on namek meaning that his power level would have been significantly lower when he was younger, as he was constantly on the battle field since then, i would put king vegeta at like 11-12,000. thats not much higher than bardock being at 10,000, ignoring the near death smack down he got from dadoria, if he had healed from that, bardock … And we all know how much prestige matters in DBZ *cough* Vegeta and Goku *cough*. Bardock mad because of Berry being hurt while he was n't at all recovered: he was able do... 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